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As Prostitutes Turn to Craigslist, Law Takes Notic
mydearme
10/04/07 03:42
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GARDEN CITY, N.Y., Sept. 4 — The eight women visited Long Island this summer along with vacationing families and other business travelers, staying in hotels and motels in commercial strips in middle-class suburbs like East Garden City, Hicksville and Woodbury. Their ages ranged from 20 to 32.

Three had come all the way from the San Francisco Bay area, one from Miami. Two lived less than 60 miles away, in Newark and Elizabeth, N.J. and two even closer, in Brooklyn.

All eight were arrested on prostitution charges here, snared in a new sting operation by the Nassau County police that focuses on Craigslist.org, the ubiquitous Web site best known for its employment and for-sale advertisements but which law enforcement officials say is increasingly also used to trade sex for money.

Nassau County has made more than 70 arrests since it began focusing on Craigslist last year, one of numerous crackdowns by vice squads from Hawaii to New Hampshire that have lately been monitoring the Web site closely, sometimes placing decoy ads to catch would-be customers.

“Craigslist has become the high-tech 42nd Street, where much of the solicitation takes place now,” said Richard McGuire, Nassau’s assistant chief of detectives. “Technology has worked its way into every profession, including the oldest.”

Augmenting traditional surveillance of street walkers, massage parlors, brothels and escort services, investigators are now hunching over computer screens to scroll through provocative cyber-ads in search of solicitors.

In July raids, the sheriff of Cook County, Ill., rounded up 43 women working on the streets — and 60 who advertised on Craigslist. In Seattle, a covert police ad on Craigslist in November resulted in the arrests of 71 men, including a bank officer, a construction worker and a surgeon.

And in Jacksonville, Fla., a single ad the police posted for three days in August netted 33 men, among them a teacher and a firefighter. “We got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hits” in phone calls and e-mail messages, said John P. Hartley, the assistant chief sheriff there.

Sex and the Internet have been intertwined almost since the first Web site, but the authorities say that prostitution is flourishing online as never before. And while prostitutes also advertise on other sites, the police here and across the country say Craigslist is by far the favorite. On one recent day, for example, some 9,000 listings were added to the site’s “Erotic Services” category in the New York region alone: Most offered massage and escorts, often hinting at more.

Law enforcement officials have accused Craigslist of enabling prostitution. But the company’s president, Jim Buckmaster, said its 24-member staff cannot patrol the multitude of constantly changing listings — some 20 million per month — and counts on viewers to flag objectionable ads, which are promptly removed.

“We do not want illegal activity on the site,” he said. Asked whether the company supported the police’s placing decoy ads on Craigslist, Mr. Buckmaster said: “We don’t comment on the specifics” of law enforcement.

Craig Newmark, the site’s founder and chairman, deferred all questions to Mr. Buckmaster.

The police have also occasionally turned to Craigslist to trace stolen goods offered for sale or make drug arrests. In June, in Nassau, spotting code words like “snow” or “skiing” to refer to cocaine, they set up a sting with an undercover officer to arrest a man who advertised cocaine for sex.

Experts say that under the federal Communications Decency Act of 1996, the ads are legal and Web site owners are exempt from responsibility for content posted by users. Craigslist, for example, last fall won dismissal of a suit that alleged housing discrimination in ads posted on its Web site. “You hold the speaker liable, not the soapbox,” explained Kurt B. Opsahl, senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital civil liberties group based in San Francisco.

While Mr. Buckmaster said Craigslist was no different from old-media publications that have long carried sex-oriented ads, law enforcement officials say its scope and format are especially useful to the sex industry. With listings for some 450 cities around the world, Craigslist claims to have 25 million users and 8 billion page views a month. Posting advertisements, except those in the employment and some housing categories, is free, as is responding to them by e-mail.

“The Internet has allowed people to make contact in a way not possible before,” said Ronald Weitzer, a sociology professor at George Washington University and a researcher on prostitution. “Ten years ago this was not happening at all.”

As Nassau’s district attorney, Kathleen Rice, said of Craigslist: “It’s as easy as it gets.”

Tracy Quan, a member of the advocacy group Prostitutes of New York and author of the autobiographical novel “Diary of a Married Call Girl” (Harper Perennial, 2006), acknowledged that “the Internet became a virtual street for people in the sex industry,” but said that “the police are as inventive and as wily as sex workers are.” She said that the stings amounted to entrapment of consenting adults, and that “it seems like an enormous waste of time resources by authoritarian busybodies.”

The police say that Craigslist has changed prostitution’s patterns, with people roaming the country, setting up shop for a week or two in hotels — often near airports — where they use laptop computers and cellphones to arrange encounters for hundreds of dollars, then moving on to their next location.

“They like to move around, that’s for sure,” said Assistant Chief McGuire. “They’re flying in from out of state because there is money here” on Long Island.

In Westchester County this spring, the police in Greenburgh, Rye, Rye Brook and Elmsford formed a joint task force to investigate ads on Craigslist, resulting in 30 arrests. Some of those arrested were out-of-town prostitutes who booked numerous dates in advance, then whisked in for a busy couple of days, the police said.

In Sandpoint, Idaho, population 8,105, R. Mark Lockwood, the police chief, said that an arrest this summer involving Craigslist “was probably our first prostitution case since World War II.”

Amid the police crackdown, in a game of electronic cat-and-mouse, the authorities say that Web site users who get wind of enforcement sometimes post warnings to thwart investigators.

The Craigslist modus operandi provides mobility, helping prostitutes keep a few steps ahead of the law, law enforcement officials say. It also affords a degree of anonymity — if they are caught, being away from home makes an arrest less embarrassing.

Pimps have also adapted to the computer age, the police say. Among those arrested here in August, on charges of promoting prostitution, was Victor Teixeira, 31, of Mineola. “He was managing the technology of it,” said Assistant Chief McGuire. “He recruited the women on the Internet. He put different ads up sometimes three times day. He would screen the calls and make the appointments.”

Mr. Teixeira pleaded not guilty; he could not be reached for comment.

Most of the arrests are on misdemeanor charges, with convictions resulting in fines of a few hundred dollars; only repeat offenders risk jail time. The real penalties are the disruption of business, the cost of lawyers and the seizures of computers and cash — as much as several thousand dollars at a time. The police say the focus on such misconduct is worthwhile because prostitution is often linked to other crimes involving drugs, weapons, physical abuse and exploitation of minors and immigrants.

Law enforcement officials ask why Craigslist even includes Erotic Services among its 191 categories. Mr. Buckmaster, the company president, said the site created that category “at the request of our users” for legitimate massage, escorts and exotic dancers. In an e-mail interview, he said that the police had praised the company’s cooperation, though he did not give examples.

Despite police complaints that Craigslist facilitates prostitution, some experts say the Web site also aids enforcement.

“Craigslist is a very open site, and it leaves digital footprints,” said Leslie A. Harris, president of the nonprofit Center for Democracy and Technology. “It makes it easier for the police.”

Source NY Times
 
paulh50
10/25/07 11:49
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First off, Thank you for posting meaningful topics.

A few year back, before Katrina wasted New Orleans, a brothel was busted by the Feds for racketeering for the reason that it hired ladies from out of state to come an work at the house in NO.

It goes back to the old Mann Act of transporting a woman across state lines for the purpouse of sex. If you have ever seen the movie "The Great White Hope" staring James Earl Jones as the 1st Black heavy weight boxing champion, you'll know the story.

He could not be defeated in the ring so the Feds set him up. They knew that his lover was a white woman and so they threatened them both with prison and more. It was the only way they could force him to loose a fight.

This movie is a true story and show what lengths the feds will go to to control sex in this country. Although, the Mann Act is out-dated it is still on the books and used to arreset people who engage in "un-lawful sexual congress."

As long as we contiue to re-elect the same incumbents to office these laws are not going to change. So, please register to vote and vote out all the old politicians.

Do you really think they give a shit about us after they have been in office for 12-56 yrs of being pampered and having their asses kissed and paid money to vote for special interest groups?

Only we, the voters. can affect change.
 
Rainaomaha
11/15/07 22:44
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That has actually just happend where I live the local news did a undercover story using a private investigation company. They set a room up with cameras and hidden mics and called girls to come over. One girl got arrested 5 days earlier on cl and then again was posting and still is they featured her in the interview. Several other girls were caught on tape. It is scary out there you really have to be careful using cl now.
 
nicebutt776
11/21/07 16:42
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REALLY???THAT MEANS CL IS VERY POPULAR???

HMMMP..LAW MAKER..LAW BREAKER...BUT IN THE END OF THE DAY..LAW ENFORCER IS THE NO.1 TOP LIST,THAT USING CALL GIRLS..
 
The Punisher
11/26/07 05:54
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Man, thats pretty tripped out that stuff like that can happen anytime of anyday. What are some precautions that you all take to keep yourself safe and legal?

<-----New to the Game.
 
Leslie Layne
12/03/07 15:26
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quote The Punisher :
Man, thats pretty tripped out that stuff like that can happen anytime of anyday. What are some precautions that you all take to keep yourself safe and legal?

<-----New to the Game.


Watching our language for one - at least for me. The main game they are trying to play is tripping us and trying to get us to agree to sex for money. This goes for both provider and hobbyist. An escort is provided for her time. Nothing else should be expected. So any adds that offer services or any responses that mention services should be highly suspect.

Guys, don't bauk at providers who screen and ask questions about you. In fact, be suspicious of those who don't. If she's not interested in who you are and that you could be LE, then maybe it is she who is LE. This is just my opinion, though.

One thing that angers me about these busts is how those doing the busting acts all noble saying he is doing it for the providers poor lost souls. They must be trafficked or abused because obviously no one would CHOOSE to do this for a living, right? WRONG!

Grrrrrr! Nuff said.

Leslie
 
Leslie Layne
12/03/07 15:29
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OOps! Booboo on the third line down.

An escort is provided for her time. should be...

And escort is compensated for her time ONLY.

Leslie
 
For Your Pleasure
03/30/08 07:36
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I know the cops have used Craigslist several times in my area to make busts. They are famous for busting a provider and telling her they won't charge her if she helps them set up a sting. Then the provider is blacklisted, goes to a different area for a while and comes back.

We have to be very careful . I never give out a number for initial contact. I read the emails I receive very carefully. After getting a second response I can usually tell if the person contacting me is safe and I proceed to set up the appointment. I've also learned to post my ads very carefully. I mention comng over to cook dinner and share some time watching a movie. I request a donation for the cost of the food and travel to get there. I also do not post rates on those ads, but will discuss in my first reply. I've had success on Craigs and never had a problem, you just have to be very careful.


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cutie101
04/06/08 23:14
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I can't believe how popular Craigslist has become.
 
Kimberly Bridget
05/05/08 10:56
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Evryone must remember to trust your intuition. LE screws up and they are so sketchy that it is usually very very obvious that they are not a real client.
 
MISSLADY1977
05/13/08 05:18
MISSLADY1977
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i have been contacted by L.E. very often beware of the caller who wants you to tell where you are immediately or wants you to say you service for money or the customer who wont touch you !!! i live in florida they play this game then off duty call you up !!!


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